Originally Posted by old corps Perfect- Wow 4000 hours on the original lamp, that's impressive! Still bright enough for you??? Ed I've made some minor adjustments to some settings to keep it looking bright. But, honestly when the room is pitch black I can still make it a little uncomfortably bright.

And during the day when I get some light seeping through the windows, it is still bright enough to watch. I wonder if I threw in a new bulb how surprised I'd be at the difference.

I actually don't have a replacement bulb at the moment. I should probably do that real soon. On a side note, I had a DLP TV before this that also used a bulb. I didn't have a replacement bulb for that one at the time and it died the morning of Super Bowl Sunday.

I had to make a lot of phone calls and find an alternate place for the party I was hosting. I should probably learn from my last time not having a replacement bulb. Originally Posted by mgkdragn Fishtank. For what it's worth, I'm of the opinion you have a one of a kind situation.

I was involved with dissecting an 8100 some time back in order to attempt to trace the banding down. We had no luck. I would leave well enough alone. However, you might consider trying to mount an external fan near a vent on the PJ. First having it suck air out and then reversing it to blow air in and see what happens, leaving the PJ on eco mode. If this works, I would rig up a remote for the external fan. Keep us posted.

If you put a pusher fan on a normal exhaust vent, probably should put some kind of filter on it. Or maybe I misunderstood what you're saying.

Originally Posted by perfectevolution I'll throw my $0.02 in on HB from my experiences. I've 4000 hours on my original bulb and run in eco mode. I had never noticed HB until a couple months ago.

When I did notice HB I only saw it when using my PS3. I use a MonoPrice 4x1 HDMI switched, so all devices use the same HDMI input on the projector. I found that the HB was made worse when running the PS3 in 1080p24. When I run it in 1080p60 I can't see any HB from my seating distance and it is barely noticeable on certain colors if I am directly at the screen. So if any of you are having HB when when using a PS3 as a source, try switching off the 1080p24 mode and see if that improves anything. Wait a second, you didn't see HB until the bulb was almost dead? Could this whole thing just be a bulb problem?

New bulbs have it to start, older bulbs don't until they're about dead. I wonder if you put in a new bulb if you'll see it right away. Originally Posted by mgkdragn Fishtank. For what it's worth, I'm of the opinion you have a one of a kind situation.

I was involved with dissecting an 8100 some time back in order to attempt to trace the banding down. We had no luck. I would leave well enough alone. However, you might consider trying to mount an external fan near a vent on the PJ. First having it suck air out and then reversing it to blow air in and see what happens, leaving the PJ on eco mode. If this works, I would rig up a remote for the external fan.

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Keep us posted. Yeah I don't disagree that everyone might more or less have their own battle in their own environment. If I was going to attempt to keep the projector cooler I would most likely replace the fans, well maybe I can't get a faster quieter fan but I would find out I suppose when I had one in my hand. I've taken both of my other projector's apart for various reason's, I literally had my HD65 nearly completely tore down in order to get into it's 'sealed' light chamber to remove dust blob that DLP's aren't supposed to get. These case fans would most likely be very easy to get at, I spent 10 years inside computers, I'm not that scared of pulling stuff apart, it always goes back together quite easily if your careful. But I'm not doing it today, projector was great last night! I'm really happy with my current settings, I enjoy more POP with the color's so I'm sure my settings aren't optimal but they make me really happy!

I might even be done with changing them around! It looks great on every source right now. Skin tones are awesome, blacks are decent and color's are vibrant. Originally Posted by taylor34 Wait a second, you didn't see HB until the bulb was almost dead? Could this whole thing just be a bulb problem?

New bulbs have it to start, older bulbs don't until they're about dead. I wonder if you put in a new bulb if you'll see it right away. I don't think it has to do with the bulb, but certainly don't know for sure.

I noticed the HB after doing two things. My projector sits on a component rack so I have to unplug the cables to lift it up to clean the filter. So I had unplugged and then reseated the HDMI cable just before starting the movie. I had the PS3 1080p24 setting set to 'automatic' but noticed it never sent the 1080p24 signal to the projector on compatible blu-rays. So I changed the setting to 'On' to force the 1080p24 signal which I verified the projector was now getting. After I noticed the HB I unplugged and reseated the HDMI cable a couple of times and noticed some affect on the HB (I could get it to go from static HB to moving HB which after a couple minutes went back to static HB). It wasn't until I switched the PS3 1080p24 output off that I could see significant improvement.

I'm just wondering if some of those with HB are running 1080p24 sources and if they tried a different output setting if it would help things. But it looks like the causes of HB may not be consistant from projector to projector On a side note - I decided to order a new bulb last night from Provantage. The bulb is the biggest power draw in the pj, so it could have an effect on the HB, but is doubtfully the cause. FWIW, I got a chance to walk the CEDIA floor on an extended lunch today. 3D is obviously the flavor of the day in projectors, and while I like the shift to higher lumens for 3D equipped machines, I'm still not sold at this point. It's not that the technology isn't impressive. Artifacting and source content are the two main detractors for me, not to mention the nuance of having to deal with the glasses.

Its just not enough to make me want to pony up for a new projector at this point anyway! LCOS/SXRD is definitely improving by leaps and bounds though! Not too much impressive action on the DLP or LCD front, and surpisingly not nearly as much as I had anticipated in the way of LED technology. Originally Posted by perfectevolution I don't think it has to do with the bulb, but certainly don't know for sure. I noticed the HB after doing two things. My projector sits on a component rack so I have to unplug the cables to lift it up to clean the filter.

So I had unplugged and then reseated the HDMI cable just before starting the movie. I had the PS3 1080p24 setting set to 'automatic' but noticed it never sent the 1080p24 signal to the projector on compatible blu-rays.

So I changed the setting to 'On' to force the 1080p24 signal which I verified the projector was now getting. After I noticed the HB I unplugged and reseated the HDMI cable a couple of times and noticed some affect on the HB (I could get it to go from static HB to moving HB which after a couple minutes went back to static HB).

It wasn't until I switched the PS3 1080p24 output off that I could see significant improvement. I'm just wondering if some of those with HB are running 1080p24 sources and if they tried a different output setting if it would help things. But it looks like the causes of HB may not be consistant from projector to projector On a side note - I decided to order a new bulb last night from Provantage. While inputs may make it better or worse, even if you have no inputs on the projector you can still see the HB. So the root cause is not inputs for sure.

Originally Posted by perfectevolution I don't think it has to do with the bulb, but certainly don't know for sure. I noticed the HB after doing two things. My projector sits on a component rack so I have to unplug the cables to lift it up to clean the filter. So I had unplugged and then reseated the HDMI cable just before starting the movie. I had the PS3 1080p24 setting set to 'automatic' but noticed it never sent the 1080p24 signal to the projector on compatible blu-rays. So I changed the setting to 'On' to force the 1080p24 signal which I verified the projector was now getting. After I noticed the HB I unplugged and reseated the HDMI cable a couple of times and noticed some affect on the HB (I could get it to go from static HB to moving HB which after a couple minutes went back to static HB).

It wasn't until I switched the PS3 1080p24 output off that I could see significant improvement. I'm just wondering if some of those with HB are running 1080p24 sources and if they tried a different output setting if it would help things.

But it looks like the causes of HB may not be consistant from projector to projector On a side note - I decided to order a new bulb last night from Provantage. I tried the ps3 settings with Transformers blu ray tonight. I agree 1080P 24hz absolutely made the HB more noticeable.

I still get good results using and switching to High Altitude mode I've also started to notice that HB completely disappears when i switch from 1080P to 720P on my source. It doesn't really stay gone when you do that, but it definitely clears up HB for a short while. PS3 dashboard is a really easy place to see it on my unit anyhow. Originally Posted by 73shark Like the children's story, when she was good, she was very, very good and when she was bad, she was horrid.

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Same with this PJ, unbeatable in this price range or even higher. But if it has HB, then it's not so good. It's a shame that those that have the HB haven't been able to finding an easy fix. The HB has varying degrees. I could probably live with light HB, if I otherwise had a very sharp and well calibrated unit, but I couldn't live with it if it were noticeable from my usual seating location. It would drive me nuts! Originally Posted by old corps Jeeze Willie, thanks TONS for posting this.

Now I'll be fighting the urge to get a 2nd one!LOL Ed You think that's bad, I was close, very close, to buying a 3rd unit when I got that pricing update email. My better judgement took hold, thank God. I hit a Royal Flush over the weekend that paid $1100. So, I kept saying to myself.

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Hey, you've got the coin, go for it. Then, I thought, how stupid is that. The second one is still in the box. Seriously, I don't think, all in all, anything in that price range is going to come close for quite a while yet. Considering all the luxury features and what not on the 8100. At under 1K new in the box, it's almost too good to pass up. Given what's been reported on the Optoma 3DXL, it should work for any two similar 1080p 60hz pjs.

You would need two boxes ($399 each), and you would set one to right and one to left. I was half-kidding, but It should make for a bright/cheap 3D solution, with an excellent picture! Ranger, since I know you like the LCOS look, you may also want to inquire with AVS on their pre-release pricing for the new JVCs. From my brief walk-through at CEDIA, I saw significant improvements in the sharpness and ANSI Contrast for their newest models.

I don't plan to jump in this go around myself, but I really like what I saw in the new JVCs.